18,700
edits
Talk:Tanker: Difference between revisions
isn't it nice to agree on things once in a while?
(standards are not fun) |
(isn't it nice to agree on things once in a while?) |
||
| Line 84: | Line 84: | ||
:The rest of the content would be more casual and less trivial at the same time (background info, trivia). | :The rest of the content would be more casual and less trivial at the same time (background info, trivia). | ||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 02:47, 13 March 2008 (CET) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 02:47, 13 March 2008 (CET) | ||
---- | |||
The main thing I have to respond on is that I appreciate what you're saying about the purpose of the Tanker page. I agree that it would be nice to have an "in-world" page, one that focuses on the character within Oni's world, not his melee AI and techniques. But I ''also'' wanted to clearly document techniques and stats as a more technical kind of reference article. I now see that the appropriate place for that would be [[Gameplay/Combat_moves/Tanker]]. Written out like Konoko's page, but with a clear explanation of the key presses for each combo, and perhaps (eventually) with animated GIFs illustrating each move so the user can identify what it is we're talking about. K's page itself would of course have to be fixed up this way. I get the impression that no one ever considered her page finished. | |||
:"Slowmo is only apparent. The actual GIFs are real-time, but the playback speed seems to fluctuate a lot." | |||
I have this problem all the time: I set the GIF's speed in ImageReady, but it plays back much slower. I wondered if the slow-mo was intentional, because it does work better that way. You have the time to see the move in more detail than when you see it in-game. | |||
:"As for the work it represents: there must be a reason why we're not even close to a complete set of GIFs... | |||
::Point is, it's a clearly defined initiative, but it also comes across as an awful waste of modder time ^_^" | |||
Yeah, it wouldn't be fast, converting video to GIFs takes time, but I could record all the actual video in an hour or two and chip away at making GIFs over a longer period. | |||
:"(if by mug shot you mean the ''full'' figure of every character, then I agree, except for the standardization)" | |||
Excuse me, I didn't mean to say mug shot. I have no idea why I said that. I meant full body shots, front and side. So, good, we're in agreement. | |||
:"An ASCII dump of technique names can be found here: http://ssg.oni2.net/subfold/text/oni_bina_melee_part_2.txt" | |||
Thank you, that's very helpful. I notice that we still have text files and hex code screenshots that are not in the wiki, but are being linked to. It would be nice to "localize" those at some point, wouldn't it, so all the info is contained in the wiki itself? | |||
:"Generally speaking, I would make a common list of the extra TRAM specified by the Tanker TRAC, without MELE. | |||
::(so, yes, basically putting the TAN*** column in plain English; not sure you need the key symbols and such)" | |||
In other words, not worrying about variations in what melee AI uses which of the Tanker moves, but just listing all Tanker moves? That is a good point. We can always worry about specifying moves by AI version later if we have that much free time on our hands that we don't know what to do with. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 18:57, 13 March 2008 (CET) | |||