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=Outstanding Issues with this Page=
=Outstanding Issues with this Page=
This page is currently not under construction any longer, so disregard the list below. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 15:06, 19 March 2008 (CET)
This page is currently not under construction any longer, so disregard the list below. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 15:06, 19 March 2008 (CET)
O RLY? ^_^ --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 04:16, 20 March 2008 (CET)


<strike>1. The colors listed under Varieties are made up; will someone list the correct colors there? (Don't look at me, I'm colorblind!) - done
<strike>1. The colors listed under Varieties are made up; will someone list the correct colors there? (Don't look at me, I'm colorblind!) - done
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::Wow, nice, geyser. What this indicates to me, and let's see if you agree, is that there is no more need for a page dedicated to Tankers, another dedicated to Ninjas, etc., in any general way. So we could delete the Tanker page. ''BUT'', I still see usefulness in writing subpages under "Combat moves" that list moves and key comboes that trigger them. I think that's the only info missing now, aside from stats, which for now are impractical to document. I would like to move the (draft of a) moves list on "Tanker" to a subpage of "Combat moves", so let's leave this page up for now. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 14:58, 19 March 2008 (CET)
::Wow, nice, geyser. What this indicates to me, and let's see if you agree, is that there is no more need for a page dedicated to Tankers, another dedicated to Ninjas, etc., in any general way. So we could delete the Tanker page. ''BUT'', I still see usefulness in writing subpages under "Combat moves" that list moves and key comboes that trigger them. I think that's the only info missing now, aside from stats, which for now are impractical to document. I would like to move the (draft of a) moves list on "Tanker" to a subpage of "Combat moves", so let's leave this page up for now. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 14:58, 19 March 2008 (CET)
::Okay, as an example of what I'm thinking of doing with all playable characters, look at [[Gameplay/Combat moves/KONOKO]] and tell me if it looks promising (it's not totally done, of course). --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 16:55, 19 March 2008 (CET)
::Okay, as an example of what I'm thinking of doing with all playable characters, look at [[Gameplay/Combat moves/KONOKO]] and tell me if it looks promising (it's not totally done, of course). --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 16:55, 19 March 2008 (CET)
:'''there is no more need for a page dedicated to Tankers, another dedicated to Ninjas, etc., in any general way''' If by general you mean tedious/redundant/procrastinatory, we agree.
:As for a collection of facts, added value and other related stuff, it is always welcome. So no, we will not delete the Tanker page, and it's a bit of a shame that you should feel that way.
:As an Oni devotee, I think there's much to say about Tankers beyond listing combat stats or paraphrasing existing databases, be it the manual or the lookup table for melee TRAM...
:'''as an example of what I'm thinking of doing with all playable characters, look at Gameplay/Combat moves/KONOKO''' Without extra GIFs it's 100% redundant of the big table, sorry.
:Also, making "duh" sections for basic punches and kicks rather than for whole set of punch or kick combos (e.g., PPP and PPK together) is an awful waste of space/time/whatever...
:I guess more detailed overviews of related tactics could make this less of an insult to intelligence, but then you have to ask yourself: how long until you're bored with writing these?
:Like any systematic initiative, it's all very nice, but: please consider the time it will take to implement, and its actual use to the public in the event of total implementation success...
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 04:16, 20 March 2008 (CET)
:Now for a constructive proposal. I think systematic rationalization of pages such as Gameplay/Combat moves/KONOKO is yet another unfathomable time sink. So, leave it.
:Your take on the Crescent Moon Kick, however, is quite inspired. I encourage you to create stubs dedicated to single techniques or complementary sets, in 100% free form.
:I do not encourage you to sit down and record GIFs to illustrate those stubs, let alone to go crazy with "standardized" ones. Feel free to use any already available content...
:The screenshots from OniShots, for example, are well enough to liven up a few otherwise tedious "tactical tutorials". Also feel free to use videos (on oni2.net or YouTube).
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 04:16, 20 March 2008 (CET)