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==Ragged Konoko== | ==Ragged Konoko== | ||
[[Image:GUIDORaggedKonoko.jpg|right|thumb|Ragged Konoko | [[Image:GUIDORaggedKonoko.jpg|right|thumb|Ragged Konoko]] | ||
:good. short, sweet, to the point. | :good. short, sweet, to the point. | ||
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:once again, a well done scene. | :once again, a well done scene. | ||
::[[User;AF|AF]] | ::[[User;AF|AF]] | ||
:Picture yourself spending a few weeks in a weather-battered wasteland, with no spare clothes, hardly any drinkable water, and nothing but rock-hard soil to sleep on. | :Picture yourself spending a few weeks in a weather-battered wasteland, with no spare clothes, hardly any drinkable water, and nothing but rock-hard soil to sleep on. | ||
:Take someone who's been pedaling uphill, or climbing up a cliff... a whole day long, and under the pouring rain... and then try imagine what they'd look like after several days/weeks/months of such activity. | :Take someone who's been pedaling uphill, or climbing up a cliff... a whole day long, and under the pouring rain... and then try imagine what they'd look like after several days/weeks/months of such activity. | ||
:: | ::[[User:Guido|Guido]] & [[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:13, 28 October 2006 (CEST) | ||
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:If you choose to picture Konoko as struggling with the environment rather than adapting to it, then you are missing Oni's "symbiosis" completely, and that's a shame. | :If you choose to picture Konoko as struggling with the environment rather than adapting to it, then you are missing Oni's "symbiosis" completely, and that's a shame. | ||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:13, 28 October 2006 (CEST) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:13, 28 October 2006 (CEST) | ||
[[Image:GUIDO Who said I enjoy acid showers.jpg|right]] | |||
Well let's take a look at the splashscreen in the end of | :Well let's take a look at the splashscreen in the end of {{C12}}. | ||
:Konoko doesn't give me the idea she is enjoying the acid bath. | |||
:Do you think she is keen on repeating such an experience? | |||
::[[User:Guido|Guido]] 23:43, 28 October 2006 (CEST) | |||
:Hm, yeah, I still have to upload all the other splashscreens and complete the chapter pages... thanks for reminding me. | |||
:I ''never'' said "enjoy", up there or at all. I said "take". Acid or not, a cold shower is usually not a pleasant experience. | |||
:Also : | |||
:#There's an obvious difference between complete immersion in a biomatter disposal vat, and an improvised shower under an acid rain. | |||
:#The rain's acidity is not even a given : class 3/4 toxins are the main issue of the [[BioCrisis]]. | |||
:#The other characters in the scene don't seem to care about the rain acidity/toxicity at all | |||
:#*(and I stressed that fact repeatedly) | |||
:#*(if humans can work/shout/whatever under that rain, Konoko can take a f##king shower) | |||
:#*(she doesn't have to enjoy it, but she ''will'' do it for the sake of staying clean) | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 15:07, 30 October 2006 (CET) | |||
:There is a subtle difference between possessing an enhanced self-healing power, and being immune to suffering and pain. | |||
:I think Konoko has become a die hard, but the worst side effect of her condition is that she can endure pain more than anyone else. | |||
::[[User:Guido|Guido]] 23:43, 28 October 2006 (CEST) | ::[[User:Guido|Guido]] 23:43, 28 October 2006 (CEST) | ||
:That's another story. When I say "there are certain advantages to being a [[Daodan]]", aren't they always coupled to drawbacks? Sure are. | |||
:Perhaps the most obvious drawbacks are the loss of identity and/or free will; the rejection by mankind; the power to hurt and to kill. | |||
:As for the "power to suffer"... [[Quotes/Speech#Torture|Muro has it all figured out]], as far as I'm concerned : | |||
::Curious. Why bother programming you to feel pain so intensely? | |||
::Of course pain is a necessary response to certain stimuli, but they could have dulled the sensation | |||
::or given you a threshold that would limit the extent and depth of your agony. I'm glad they didn't. | |||
:Suppressing pain altogether is virtual suicide. ''Dulling it is an improvement''. By all means the [[Daodan]] would ''ease Konoko's pain''. IMO. | |||
:That being said, I'd love it if we used this opportunity to develop on the Lost Chapter 12.5, following Konoko between {{C12}} and {{C13}}. | |||
:How much can Konoko suffer? How much does she ''need'' to suffer? (story-wise and ''author''-wise) That's something we ought to set straight. | |||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 15:07, 30 October 2006 (CET) | |||
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[[Image:GUIDO When you need an umbrella.jpg|right]] | |||
;Ragged Konoko (redux) | ;Ragged Konoko (redux) | ||
:Bottom line for me as for the explanatory sentences : | :Bottom line for me as for the explanatory sentences : |