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*Now* we're talking... ^^
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==Ragged Konoko==
==Ragged Konoko==
[[Image:GUIDORaggedKonoko.jpg|right|thumb|Ragged Konoko<br>[[:Image:GUIDORaggedKonoko.jpg|(MORE)]]]]
[[Image:GUIDORaggedKonoko.jpg|right|thumb|Ragged Konoko]]


:good.  short, sweet, to the point.
:good.  short, sweet, to the point.
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:once again, a well done scene.
:once again, a well done scene.
::[[User;AF|AF]]
::[[User;AF|AF]]
:First, a tentative proofreading (translation, almost :P) (just merge with your entry if accurate, and delete this) :
:Picture yourself spending a few weeks in a weather-battered wasteland, with no spare clothes, hardly any drinkable water, and nothing but rock-hard soil to sleep on.
:Picture yourself spending a few weeks in a weather-battered wasteland, with no spare clothes, hardly any drinkable water, and nothing but rock-hard soil to sleep on.
:Take someone who's been pedaling uphill, or climbing up a cliff... a whole day long, and under the pouring rain... and then try imagine what they'd look like after several days/weeks/months of such activity.
:Take someone who's been pedaling uphill, or climbing up a cliff... a whole day long, and under the pouring rain... and then try imagine what they'd look like after several days/weeks/months of such activity.
::(original post by [[User:Guido|Guido]])
::[[User:Guido|Guido]] & [[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:13, 28 October 2006 (CEST)
::(proofreading and re-translation by:[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:13, 28 October 2006 (CEST) ^^)




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:If you choose to picture Konoko as struggling with the environment rather than adapting to it, then you are missing Oni's "symbiosis" completely, and that's a shame.
:If you choose to picture Konoko as struggling with the environment rather than adapting to it, then you are missing Oni's "symbiosis" completely, and that's a shame.
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:13, 28 October 2006 (CEST)
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 21:13, 28 October 2006 (CEST)
 
[[Image:GUIDO Who said I enjoy acid showers.jpg|right]]
Well let's take a look at the splashscreen in the end of Sins of the Father. Konoko doesn't give me the idea she is enjoying the acid bath. Do you think she is keen on repeating such an experience? There is a subtle difference between possessing an enhanced self-healing power, and being immune to suffering and pain. I think Konoko has become a die hard, but the worst side effect of her condition is that she can endure pain more than anyone else.  
:Well let's take a look at the splashscreen in the end of {{C12}}.
:Konoko doesn't give me the idea she is enjoying the acid bath.
:Do you think she is keen on repeating such an experience?
::[[User:Guido|Guido]] 23:43, 28 October 2006 (CEST)
:Hm, yeah, I still have to upload all the other splashscreens and complete the chapter pages... thanks for reminding me.
:I ''never'' said "enjoy", up there or at all. I said "take". Acid or not, a cold shower is usually not a pleasant experience.
:Also :
:#There's an obvious difference between complete immersion in a biomatter disposal vat, and an improvised shower under an acid rain.
:#The rain's acidity is not even a given : class 3/4 toxins are the main issue of the [[BioCrisis]].
:#The other characters in the scene don't seem to care about the rain acidity/toxicity at all
:#*(and I stressed that fact repeatedly)
:#*(if humans can work/shout/whatever under that rain, Konoko can take a f##king shower)
:#*(she doesn't have to enjoy it, but she ''will'' do it for the sake of staying clean)
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 15:07, 30 October 2006 (CET)
:There is a subtle difference between possessing an enhanced self-healing power, and being immune to suffering and pain.
:I think Konoko has become a die hard, but the worst side effect of her condition is that she can endure pain more than anyone else.
::[[User:Guido|Guido]] 23:43, 28 October 2006 (CEST)
::[[User:Guido|Guido]] 23:43, 28 October 2006 (CEST)
:That's another story. When I say "there are certain advantages to being a [[Daodan]]", aren't they always coupled to drawbacks? Sure are.
:Perhaps the most obvious drawbacks are the loss of identity and/or free will; the rejection by mankind; the power to hurt and to kill.
:As for the "power to suffer"... [[Quotes/Speech#Torture|Muro has it all figured out]], as far as I'm concerned :
::Curious. Why bother programming you to feel pain so intensely?
::Of course pain is a necessary response to certain stimuli, but they could have dulled the sensation
::or given you a threshold that would limit the extent and depth of your agony. I'm glad they didn't.
:Suppressing pain altogether is virtual suicide. ''Dulling it is an improvement''. By all means the [[Daodan]] would ''ease Konoko's pain''. IMO.
:That being said, I'd love it if we used this opportunity to develop on the Lost Chapter 12.5, following Konoko between {{C12}} and {{C13}}.
:How much can Konoko suffer? How much does she ''need'' to suffer? (story-wise and ''author''-wise) That's something we ought to set straight.
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 15:07, 30 October 2006 (CET)


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[[Image:GUIDO When you need an umbrella.jpg|right]]
;Ragged Konoko (redux)
;Ragged Konoko (redux)
:Bottom line for me as for the explanatory sentences :
:Bottom line for me as for the explanatory sentences :