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Hm, things went faster than I thought. Some of your concerns/"threats" I didn't address [[Current events|HERE]]. | |||
I'm glad you didn't actually "kick out" the "overview @ Onistuff" and the "struct def for OUP"... ^^ | |||
But I ''really'' wish you held your horses with the wiki-based image business : as in "do we need this"? | |||
That said, I'm positively impressed by your dedication and active contribution. Happy, even ^^ | |||
;Editing | |||
:Please log in unless you absolutely can't do so. You're gonna make me learn your IP by heart... ^^ | |||
;Tables | |||
:The "File" in "OBD File Header" (or "... Footer") was for disambiguation from | |||
::"OBD BINA Header", "OBD OBJC Header", "OBD OSBD Header" and maybe others... | |||
:Since your table will be used for generic binary chunks, regardless of where they belongs to, | |||
::I'd call your new template "OBD Table", as suggested earlier. | |||
;Tables too | |||
:If you ask me, there's nothing ''very'' wrong with a light brown background. | |||
::Or with a white one, for that matter. Matches the default skin just fine. ^^ | |||
:::Anyway, I'm colorblind, so I'll let you handle those matters as you see fit. | |||
:An "End" column is not needed. I'm not sure I'd call the first column "Start", but it's OK. | |||
::Actually, I wouldn't integrate the column headers (or their sizes) into the template at all. | |||
:::Because in specific cases, you may want to organize the data somewhat differently | |||
::::(e.g. [[OBD:BINA|HERE]] or [[OBD:TRAM/raw0x34|HERE]] or [[OBD:ONCC#0x15C_-_0x293|HERE]]) (it's messy, but you get the idea) | |||
:The 100% width can be cancelled out by embedding the "OBD File Table" in another set of table tags | |||
::Custom alignment of small tables can be handled there, too. | |||
:::Headers and column sizes can't be overridden that way, though. | |||
:I think a good compromise would be to split the "OBD File Table" in two : | |||
:*the first half including the table tags (fancy backgeound color, 100%, etc). We'd call it "Fancy Table" because it has nothing to do with OBD. | |||
:*the second half would be the header row, with its own fancy color, the column header names and their sizes. We'd call "Fancy OBD Header" | |||
:Additionally, we can have a third template that just creates a row of "header" color, but doesn't specify column names and sizes. We'd call it "Fancy Header" | |||
:By combining "Fancy Table" with either "Fancy OBD Header" or "Fancy Header", you'll be able to get : | |||
:*the "predefined" format for documenting generic chunks of binary data | |||
:*or a more "loose" (not OBD-specific) format where you'll be able to set up custom columns | |||
:You can even use several "Fancy Header"s per table if you so wish | |||
:We may also have such a "fancy row" template for the "Below follows the first package" (which is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleonasm#Semantic_pleonasm semantic pleonasm] BTW), probably with custom text. | |||
;Images: | |||
:Thumbnailing : I ''know'' images don't get thumbnailed by default (duh) | |||
::The appearance on the article page will be ''exactly'' the same as with a URL | |||
::And that's exactly my problem : ''no one'' will ''ever'' want to thumbnail them | |||
::(or right-align them, or resize them, or do any fancy wiki-image stuff with them) | |||
::The only advantages are then : | |||
::*a shorter location to type | |||
:::(but it's not like you type those links in often) | |||
::::(the image is featured on a single page and that's all) | |||
::*the ability for dedicated users to provide alternative snapshots | |||
:::(but they can do it just fine by linking to remote images) | |||
::::(or, better, to images stored on their oni2.net accounts) | |||
::*the permanent presence of the image at that location and on oni2.net | |||
:::(again, the more dedicated people get an account on oni2.net, the better) | |||
::::(in your case, is there a good reason for not mirroring stuff on ssg.oni2.net?) | |||
:::::(if not for the whole site, at least the images...) | |||
::The inability to rename the images, and the lousy short-term flexibility (e.g., splitting/merging snapshots) | |||
:::are IMO ''major drawbacks'' of wiki-based images as compared to external URLs. | |||
::::(in this specific case) (and so I'd really ask you to think it over again) | |||
:Another "problem" (if you insist on having the images wiki-based) is with the format and filenames : | |||
::Make it PNG rather than GIF | |||
::Capitalize the names according to the names of the actual files | |||
;Images Too | |||
:Whatever your "OBD Image" template is supposed to do, it's probably a bad idea. ^^ | |||
:Don't center images, or embed them in a table spanning the whole page. | |||
:Please don't. Or at least say what's wrong with plain old left-aligned images | |||
::(external ones ^^ ) | |||
:More generally, always think in terms of "what was wrong with the old stuff?" | |||
[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:49, 15 November 2006 (CET) | |||