OniGalore talk:Current events

Spam-related talk moved to Talk:War on spam... geyser 00:00, 2 June 2008 (CEST)

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Speaking of not so current events:

"Offsets -- They're tedious to add, but they're generally more helpful than the color map when actually viewing/editing a file"

Are there any OBD pages without offsets left?

Neo

I had a quick look and found no OBD pages without offsets. There's some inconsistent "types" for data fields (but nothing dramatic), not enough plain-language headers stating "what this file is for" and "what links here" when applicable. Also, typically confusing and/or insufficient documentation whenever the format gets complicated (PAR3 and such)... The BINA pages are still lacking nice-looking menus from level0_Tools.

geyser 21:08, 23 May 2008 (CEST)

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Removing some outright erroneous statements by Royal We.

"We have always been open to including the quotes from the foreign language versions of Oni." Heck no.

This is why I like being able to see a wiki page's history:

Perhaps various translations should be compared with the English somehow, to get a sort of "international" overview.

If you have the time to contribute complete collections of quotes in German/French/Italian/Russian/whatever, you're welcome.

Otherwise, don't bother ripping/uploading a translation if it doesn't diverge significantly from the English version.

- by geyser, from before my rewrite of the page --Iritscen 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST)

Oh, OK then, thanks for consolidating outdated info and for radicalizing dialectics. You scrapped my rather moderate bottom line (motivated by the fact that translations are redundant at best) and hyped up my "why not?" position on complete sets of quotes. --geyser 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

"We've always wondered what levels 5, 7, 15, 16, and 17 were supposed to be." Heck no. 1) we know what they were; 2) apart from BGI, they're irrelevant.

Uhhh, would you care to share that knowledge with the rest of us? What happens in those missing levels? And how is missing story ever "irrelevant"? --Iritscen 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST)

1) ONLD + Pre-beta content; 3) level 7 is "Obsolete", level 16 is "BGI HQ" and level 5 is "Airport Part Deux"; 4) There is no trace of 15 and 17 in the ONLD or in the beta IGMD. As for the story elements in 5 (and 7 and 16) they were scrapped in a way that leaves no gaps in the continuity (e.g., at the Airport) so those levels are not technically "missing" (even more true for stuff that was totally cut at pre-beta). In any case, I'd make a clear difference between Lost Chapters (consensual stuff that fills in the few gaps between the canonical chapters) and more radical elaborations that fall either under Oni 2 or AE and such. --geyser 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

"At that point, all the images in Talking Heads will fall into the Unused images list. We can probably solve that by just listing all images at Images" Heck no. Listing image categories at the most.

Listing image categories doesn't solve the problem of being unable to sort out the truly unused images from all the ones that are categorized and viewable in a category-as-gallery, like this one. But maybe I'm the only one that this bothers, because I'm trying to stay on top of the images that have been uploaded over time here. Speaking of which... --Iritscen 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST)

Categories, special pages etc can never replace human awareness of just what is actually being used and where and how. So please, don't you ever set up a page like THIS again. It doesn't fix anything, except maybe some psychological problem of your own. Specifically, I hope you understand that force-listing images on a page just so they're not auto-listed as "unused" is, in short, a lie. And clearly the proper way to "use" a categorized image is not to make galleries redundant of categories, but to actually put the image to some non-trivial use, in some non-trivial context. --geyser 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

"wiki-support images like this little mystery item: Image:OE-table.png" Aw, come on... you're a scream.

Glad I'm providing you with some amusement, but what's wrong with my attempt to get rid of pointless vestigial images? --Iritscen 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST)

It was a hypish initiative, totally out of proportion, and almost offensively pointless itself. Clearly the right person to ask about stuff like File:OE-table.png is Dox and Dox alone; and as for the OBD screenshots, asking a grouped question about them on ssg's talk page was also the sensible thing to do: fewer edits, less time spent typing and clicking for everyone involved. --geyser 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

Trying to make the page both more serious/accurate and more lively.

And inserting many needless carriage returns, as usual :-p Some people's screens *are* larger than 13", you know. --Iritscen 19:13, 3 June 2008 (CEST)

1) It's the pixels that matter, not the inches; 2) FYI, my screen is 1600x1200, and line breaks are my way to avoid unreadably long lines of small print on ultra-wide screens; 3) The line breaks you're complaining about right now have nothing to do with text width: they provide padding for the picture on the right so that it doesn't interfere with the edit-link of the first section. --geyser 16:28, 5 June 2008 (CEST)

geyser 17:42, 3 June 2008 (CEST)