Oni2 talk:Truth Number Zero/Course Of Events: Difference between revisions

→‎Wilderness Preserves: post-Uprising ACCs still tempting
(→‎Wilderness Preserves: post-Uprising ACCs still tempting)
Line 56: Line 56:
:::Good point about Kerr calling it "Syndicate" just because that's what the WCG's been calling it for the past 20 years. I don't much like the idea of ACCs going into production before the WCG grab, because they're like the face of WCG to me: massive, standardized, and part of a global system. Perhaps I'd rather say that, by 2012, the emanations from the Wilderness had become a major concern in the cities (but the actual location of the source was subject to debate/censorship). One of the "selling points" of the Uprising was that the new leaders would actually "do something" about the air going bad (by building the ACCs in a matter of months -- putting an end to the riots when the air quality in the cities ''did'' start to improve). The long-term problem (which the activists tried to draw attention to, but failed) was that the WCG weren't actually doing anything about the ''source'' of the pollution (in the Preserves), thus only delaying a complete environmental breakdown. In this view, the BioCrisis predated the Uprising, but the ACCs were built ''after'' it, systematically but hastily (to present the WCG's institution as timely and vital, and to silence the riots). I still like the idea of the ACCs doubling as power plants, so perhaps the ACCs were simply built on top of existing power plants (the WCG only added the towering air-cleaning tiers, and/or enhanced the generators, but left some of the architecture untouched -- that would explain why ACC levels look a bit Frankensteinian at places). --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 01:17, 9 June 2020 (CEST)
:::Good point about Kerr calling it "Syndicate" just because that's what the WCG's been calling it for the past 20 years. I don't much like the idea of ACCs going into production before the WCG grab, because they're like the face of WCG to me: massive, standardized, and part of a global system. Perhaps I'd rather say that, by 2012, the emanations from the Wilderness had become a major concern in the cities (but the actual location of the source was subject to debate/censorship). One of the "selling points" of the Uprising was that the new leaders would actually "do something" about the air going bad (by building the ACCs in a matter of months -- putting an end to the riots when the air quality in the cities ''did'' start to improve). The long-term problem (which the activists tried to draw attention to, but failed) was that the WCG weren't actually doing anything about the ''source'' of the pollution (in the Preserves), thus only delaying a complete environmental breakdown. In this view, the BioCrisis predated the Uprising, but the ACCs were built ''after'' it, systematically but hastily (to present the WCG's institution as timely and vital, and to silence the riots). I still like the idea of the ACCs doubling as power plants, so perhaps the ACCs were simply built on top of existing power plants (the WCG only added the towering air-cleaning tiers, and/or enhanced the generators, but left some of the architecture untouched -- that would explain why ACC levels look a bit Frankensteinian at places). --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 01:17, 9 June 2020 (CEST)
::::The ACCs might have been part of the means to power for the WCG. In this theory, the construction of the ACCs was part of what bankrupted the nations, paving the way for debt forgiveness through assimilation. Who's to say that the whole framing of the BioCrisis and promotion of the ACCs wasn't partly a deliberate plot by the WCG to rise to power? Of course they would have been called something else before they became the (not-quite-entire-)world government, but the proto-WCG could still have been the ones to design the ACCs, explaining their uniformity (of course, it's our assumption that they're uniform). This makes the timing of events much more comfortable than imagining the enormous ACCs being built in hundreds of locations between 2012 and 2014. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 02:03, 9 June 2020 (CEST)
::::The ACCs might have been part of the means to power for the WCG. In this theory, the construction of the ACCs was part of what bankrupted the nations, paving the way for debt forgiveness through assimilation. Who's to say that the whole framing of the BioCrisis and promotion of the ACCs wasn't partly a deliberate plot by the WCG to rise to power? Of course they would have been called something else before they became the (not-quite-entire-)world government, but the proto-WCG could still have been the ones to design the ACCs, explaining their uniformity (of course, it's our assumption that they're uniform). This makes the timing of events much more comfortable than imagining the enormous ACCs being built in hundreds of locations between 2012 and 2014. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 02:03, 9 June 2020 (CEST)
:::::Too much focus on debt, I'd say, and also not sure why there would have been extra debt if all the countries were in the same ACC-building boat. With a proto-WCG emerging early on, the Uprising wouldn't have been as much of a surprise for everyone (including the Network, which wouldn't have struggled so much). In the view that the BioCrisis was in lack of a global solution at the time of the Uprising, the express construction of ACCs (on top of pre-existing power plants), and an unexpected efficiency of the new world order in combating the BioCrisis could have been an impressive feat of the WCG's early months, counterbalancing their oppressive reforms in other domains. Also, the ACCs needn't have been built huge from the beginning. Tiers may have been added in the next 20 years to keep up with the progressing BioCrisis. Point taken about the ACCs not necessarily being uniform -- I'm saying the same thing about Contaminated Zones, so it's only fair. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 03:23, 9 June 2020 (CEST)


===The Scratch===
===The Scratch===