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==Standerds==
[[Category:Contents]]
:Mayhap we should set some standerds for article creation/modification. For one, NO m-rated language.[[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 19:18, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
 
:I beg to disagree. Clean language is not an option.
:The best we can do is blank out certain characters.
:So I hope you're all right with s##t and f##k etc.
:Peace
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:16, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
:In any case, such a rule would have to be motivated.
:Are ''you'' offended, or do you want to protect others?
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:16, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
:BTW, there ''are'' stand'''a'''rds in terms of spelling ^^
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:16, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
:I know for a fact children younger then ten visit this site.
::[[User:The Deadly Brain|The Deadly Brain]] 23:22, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
:#Do you mean from {{OCF}}? (we're not indexed on Google yet)
:#All clear. But it's as I said. "Bleeping" at most.
:You can be the bleeper-in-chief if you want ^^
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 00:59, 26 May 2007 (CEST)
 
 
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==Expansion==
it could use a bit of enlarging... and detailing... this site ain't a direct-copy of the game (even though it might seem so ;P), so... :)
[[User:EgonFreeman|EgonFreeman]] 1:33, 9 Jun 2006 (CEST)
:Well, feel free to contribute... that's how it works. All the detailing and enlarging is done by me ATM, but it's not supposed to stay that way...
:I know there are things like chapter summaries and character profiles missing, but... there are other priorities, including Oni-related ones :)
:I may be trimming the Main Page soon (it's a bit confusing at the moment). More images, less text. Links to namespaces and such.
:[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 02:30, 14 Jun 2006 (CEST)
 
==Proposal for New Main Page ([[User:Iritscen/MainPageProposal]])==
:Sorry, geyser, I should have discussed it first, but I thought, it's better to show than to tell, and if you didn't like it, you could revert... also, I copied because I didn't want to make you move things back if you wanted to revert (and because some things were getting moved to separate pages, not just moved together)...
:anyway, it sounds like you prefer the main items to be the only items on the front page, and each links to its own page, right?  "Making of", "Basic", etc. are the only level that shows here.  Is that right?
::[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 17:27, 16 January 2008 (CET)
#You could totally have "shown" here in the talk page, or (better) in your user namespace, with only a link to that new page design here, like: [[User:Iritscen/Main Page]]
#That's right. The main page should be a "portal to portals" with most of the details moved to those other portals. What we have now is something resembling a "site map".
:We'll see about reverting. The wiki is important, but I will sorta have to focus on modding this week, so I'm not sure I'll have the right inspiration to help you guys.
:As for the splitting stuff off to separate pages, please let's not have too much of that. Mini-pages actually make the wiki harder to browse and more annoying to read.
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 17:40, 16 January 2008 (CET)
Okay, what if the main page looks as it does now (but maybe a nicer arrangement of the titles), and then each of those links to some fairly large pages -- no mini-pages. If you don't like that, I will revert to original Main Page and go do something with the Images section... future changes will indeed be previewed in my namespace. Sorry, I forgot my wiki etiquette. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 17:47, 16 January 2008 (CET)
 
@Iritscen: That sucks. Would you please change that back and use a playground first as geyser had suggested it above? [[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 18:21, 16 January 2008 (CET)
 
:Well, since you asked nicely, sure, I'll do that. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 18:22, 16 January 2008 (CET)
 
Thank you. (Wow, now that was really a fast response. :-) I've nothing against a new main page, but it's not a good choice to replace a full working site with an "under construction" one. [[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 18:38, 16 January 2008 (CET)
:You're right, I was expecting a quick reply from geyser, but it seems he's moved on to something else. When he responded I was going to start fixing things up. You just happened to come along in the meantime. As he's pointed out, I should be doing things like that in my namespace; see User:Iritscen/MainPageProposal from now on.
:Anyway, we should still get a sense of what kind of page people want.  A very simple one with groups like "Making Of", "Basic Info", etc., or can we have subgroups like in the Proposal?  --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 18:55, 16 January 2008 (CET)
 
Oh... I'm sorry. Didn't know that it was already in work. However, your new main page looks good. IMO you can replace the main page.
 
One suggestion: Add an equals sign to every group and subgroup. F.e.: <nowiki>=Help= to ==Help==</nowiki>. IMO it looks better, because the page has not so much dividing lines. [[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 11:20, 17 January 2008 (CET)
 
:Okay, I did that, and agree it looks better. But Ssg, geyser does not agree that the page should be so long, which is why I want to arrive at a consensus before replacing what's on the Main Page. I think the page can be that long, but maybe he thinks it's unwieldy or intimidating.
 
:Also, I am trying to add this code at the top of the page:
 
:<nowiki><center><div style="font-size=162%;">Welcome to OniGalore, the wiki for all things Oni.</div>
:[[Special:Statistics|{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}]] articles in total</center></nowiki>
 
:Two problems: 1. It does not change the font-size! and 2. The article count looks wrong. Look at the statistics page. There's a bajillion pages and it says only 90 are probably "real content". Is that true? --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 16:14, 17 January 2008 (CET)
 
Replace the equals sign between "font-size" and "162%" with a colon:
 
<center><div style="font-size:162%;">Welcome to OniGalore, the wiki for all things Oni.</div>
:[[Special:Statistics|{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}]] articles in total</center>
 
The "90 articles" is right, I guess. IMO Wiki takes a namepsace as one article. So f.e. the whole OBD sites are only one article. Well, that's what I think. I've no idea, if that's right or not.
 
I like the long main page, because it contains all information I need. I don't have to search for something and I don't have to guess where something could be located. Nevertheless, to shorten it I would move the external links to a seperate site, because that's a topic that can run up to a lot of entries. The link to the "External Links" can be placed in the "Further Content" section. [[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 18:57, 17 January 2008 (CET)
 
:THANK YOU. That was driving me crazy; I think our wiki's syntax is a little different from Wikipedia, or else I'm just confused. But the tags work now, and that's what matters. I agree with your input on the External Links (it's not really appropriate to have external links on a wiki's front page, now that I think about it), and am adjusting accordingly. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 19:45, 17 January 2008 (CET)
 
::It is probably because wikipedia is updated :P...OniWiki is ollllddd [[User:Gumby|Gumby]]
 
==Vote for New Main Page==
Please add your opinion below.  All in favor of the page at [[User:Iritscen/MainPageProposal]] write '''For''' and optionally give a comment.  Otherwise write '''Against''' and please explain why.  Remember to sign!  We need to get this matter settled so I can move on to other things on the wiki and stop glancing at the talk page looking for changes.
 
'''For'''.  But I ''am'' a biased party :-3 --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 16:15, 28 January 2008 (CET)
 
'''For'''.  The new page is hawt [[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 08:42, 30 January 2008 (CET)
 
'''For'''.  I like it :) [[User:Tyr|Tyr]] 16:57, 30 January 2008 (CET)
 
'''Err'''.  How is it different from the old one? [[User:Geyser|geyser]] 16:26, 31 January 2008 (CET)
::Stuff got moved around, and a new intro, methinks
::http://wiki.oni2.net/w/index.php?title=User%3AIritscen%2FMainPageProposal&diff=7480&oldid=7479 if it helps :P [[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 20:03, 1 February 2008 (CET)
 
'''For'''. Maybe we should move the "help" section to the 2nd or 4th position, so that the "basic content" is followed directly by the "further content". That makes more sense, IMO. [[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 14:37, 2 February 2008 (CET)
 
;Kkk.
:K guys, looks like long silences attract spam. What do you think about a 3-column layout such as [[User:Geyser/Main|THIS]]?
:Of course, you could add items to every list, but I'd rather keep them short and redirecting elsewhere.
:If I don't have a reply by the end of the weekend, I'll make [[User:Geyser/Main|this]] the new main page, fa fa fa fa fa! ^_^
:The old one (or maybe Iritscen's revisited version) will be moved to [[Main Page/Site map]] or something.
 
'''Mmh'''... not bad either. If we use this, you should add a "valign=top" so that the entries of the last row are always on top. [[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 19:07, 2 February 2008 (CET)
 
;Hmm...
:Added the valign thing. Needless to say, you're welcome to fancify the colors, reshuffle the lists etc... at any time.
:That page also relies on 4 pages that don't exist yet: [[ONi]], [[ONi for fans]], [[ONi for players]] and [[ONi for modders]]...
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 00:32, 3 February 2008 (CET)
;Oh...
:Oh indeed. As for that spam we're getting, it's not clear whom we owe this new source of comfort.
:We were never indexed on Google, so it must be a problem of linking here from one place too many.
:Did someone add a link to the wiki from a site hosted on a public server, or something like that?
:Interestingly, the IPs are very specific, with a single set of spam per IP. That's a "good " thing.
:If we keep getting more of that, we will probably restrict editing access to registered users.
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 00:32, 3 February 2008 (CET)
:OK, who do we know in Odessa, Ukraine? ^_^
 
I've added a lot of [[links]]. [[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 01:08, 3 February 2008 (CET)
 
Why not to [[OniGalore:Community_Portal]]? [[User:Geyser|geyser]] 01:44, 3 February 2008 (CET)
 
Oh... forgot about this site. (There is no link to it on the main page.) Sorry. Nonetheless, I prefer the name "links". So I would suggest to close the "community_portal" page and use the "links" page.
*To your main page proposal: Why are the entries of the 1st and 2nd rows links? ([[ONi]], [[ONi for fans]], [[ONi for players]] and [[ONi for modders]]) Do we need these? What's your idea for the content of these?
*To the colouring offer: Believe it or not, but the colour you've chosen looks good to me. :-) [[User:Ssg|Ssg]] 15:02, 3 February 2008 (CET)
 
;Crap.
:It's getting flooded in here. Will definitely clean this up after setting up the new Main Page layout.
:There are nice links to "Community portal" and "Current events" in the wiki's main navigation box...
:These pages are there by default, which is why I'm using them rather than pages called "Links" etc.
:So, closing [[OniGalore:Community_Portal]] is not an option, but we can make [[Links]] redirect there.
:I strongly object to an "exhaustive" collection of links (the "links to programs", for example)...
:Such lists are useless to newcomers, and only serve as bookmarks to people who know where to look.
:If a program is worth linking to, develop on it, either on its own page, or in [[Programs]] or such.
*[[ONi]] and the other three are supposed to be portals in article form (with sentences and lists).
:They would describe the main fields of interest and provide links to more detailed "articles".
:Simply put, they are expanded, verbose versions of the mini-lists in the Main Page portal.
*Heh, I'm just using [[Template:Table]], so the color is yours. I thought of livening it up.
:(you know, with different colors for the columns, a background picture, some mini-thumbs)
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 18:10, 3 February 2008 (CET)
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;To a public server?
:Could be almost every fan site which isn't on oni2.net. (Links which I set to the wiki: a more or less dead  webspace*, a private wiki*, a privat forum**). Or do you mean link from a public server? Maybe it works that way too. (I've a link on animexx.onlinewelten.com** to my oni2.net webspace which is linked to the OG.)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki> - not indexed by google<br><nowiki>**</nowiki> - indexed by google, but restricted area excluded for logged in members
:However, it seems like a silly bot which attacks only the "Talk:Main Page". So why not set it under protection?
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 14:46, 3 February 2008 (CET)
:Yes, I meant "from" (sorry about the "typo").
:I enabled protection for this page.
:You have to log in to edit it now.
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 22:58, 3 February 2008 (CET)
;For/against...
:Well, I think both pages are better than the old. But I trend to geyser's because it's more compact.
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 14:46, 3 February 2008 (CET)

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