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:::::::::4.5. '''"Why aren't you?"''' But, I am.
:::::::::4.5. '''"Why aren't you?"''' But, I am.
:::::::::P.S.: Mac users are in an inferior modding situation because we can't use every program (OUP, OniBrowser e.g.) that you can. That doesn't mean that Mac users should be expected to do all their Oni work in Windows. But ultimately, why are we having this conversation? Gumby, any GUI that someone wrote for Windows would have to be written by someone else for the Mac, right? So this discussion does not entail any work on your part. Really, at this point, it would fall to Ed (who is already doing related work) and myself to do something nice for Mac users. And perhaps that's just as well, if we're the only ones who appreciate GUIs. I can guarantee that the other Mac users would lap our work up eagerly and modding on our side would outpace the Windows side. For the time being, of course, I can only talk about it because I won't have the time to act until a couple other Oni projects are done. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 22:13, 25 August 2008 (CEST)
:::::::::P.S.: Mac users are in an inferior modding situation because we can't use every program (OUP, OniBrowser e.g.) that you can. That doesn't mean that Mac users should be expected to do all their Oni work in Windows. But ultimately, why are we having this conversation? Gumby, any GUI that someone wrote for Windows would have to be written by someone else for the Mac, right? So this discussion does not entail any work on your part. Really, at this point, it would fall to Ed (who is already doing related work) and myself to do something nice for Mac users. And perhaps that's just as well, if we're the only ones who appreciate GUIs. I can guarantee that the other Mac users would lap our work up eagerly and modding on our side would outpace the Windows side. For the time being, of course, I can only talk about it because I won't have the time to act until a couple other Oni projects are done. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] 22:13, 25 August 2008 (CEST)
::::::::::0. Define end-user? Modder=/=End User. End user is the guy who installs the mod. If you are making a mod, you should know what you are doing. Modding isn't for the lazy.
::::::::::1. Then don't complain about not having one. Make it yourself.
::::::::::2. Because it is easier to fine tune things with hex and a command line program. "You can't do everything in point and click apps".
::::::::::3. Making a GUI for editing every single part of Oni is also a technical hurdle. :)
::::::::::3.5 See point 2. Unless the same guy who makes the underlying program makes the GUI (not true here), the GUI's features will not mirror the program's features.  And at some point, the program will have more features than will properly fit on a GUI. See point 1. This will either lead to a messy\unfriendly GUI (bad), or a GUI with features removed (also bad). [[User:Gumby|Gumby]] 22:45, 25 August 2008 (CEST)
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