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::"My proposed in-world origin for "Daodan" is the best one" - I forget what it is (I remember a few things about your story, but the Daodan name origin is not one of them), so I can't concur or deny without looking it up. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 21:44, 29 November 2022 (CET) | ::"My proposed in-world origin for "Daodan" is the best one" - I forget what it is (I remember a few things about your story, but the Daodan name origin is not one of them), so I can't concur or deny without looking it up. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 21:44, 29 November 2022 (CET) | ||
:::Yes, I'm proposing the reverse order of "ghost" -> kanji -> "troublemaker". It's a pretty interesting discovery if true, since Hardy never stated how he came up with the Chinese word. For my in-world suggestion, see the end of [[Oni2:Slaves of War/Overview#Backstory]], but unfortunately it only makes sense as part of my own story. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 22:35, 29 November 2022 (CET) | :::Yes, I'm proposing the reverse order of "ghost" -> kanji -> "troublemaker". It's a pretty interesting discovery if true, since Hardy never stated how he came up with the Chinese word. For my in-world suggestion, see the end of [[Oni2:Slaves of War/Overview#Backstory]], but unfortunately it only makes sense as part of my own story. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 22:35, 29 November 2022 (CET) | ||
::::Oh, I see. You mean how Hasegawa: 1) recognizes that Earth is being invaded by alien life; 2) embraces this invasion as unstoppable; 3) sees self-alienation as the only way for Mankind to survive (by blending in); 4) engineers the Chrysalis as a tamed/mitigated manifestation of alien life. Trope-wise this hits a major pet peeve of mine (almighty aliens of doom) but name-wise you have me wondering whether a scientist that's fully aware of such an invasion would label it as "trouble". I mean, a 捣蛋鬼 kind of troublemaker is either a mischievous "trickster" entity, or at most a powerful "agent of chaos" who disrupts the established world order so that a new order can emerge afterwards. If a hostile biome is consuming our planet, and won't stop until it's done, then it feels more like a bona fide doomsday threat - something you'd call Flood, or Sea Of Corruption, or Green Cancer. So I am not convinced that Hasegawa would have used "Daodan" in reference to such apocalyptical trends. By the way, a genius scientist averting the apocalypse with a long-term plan is another potentially sinful trope, especially if this a secret part of the story that you'll have to dump on the reader/player in huge blocks, late in the game. I prefer a narrative that doesn't hinge on big revelations, and a truth that works in layers and can be revealed gradually if at all. Key concepts and motivations should allow for "naive" interpretations (both simple and relatable), and they should be available early in the story, even if there are huge plot twists in store. In that sense I still believe TNZ and SoW can be reconciled (eventually; and probably with quite a few adjustments) as different interpretations of the same multi-layered truth. --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 00:22, 30 November 2022 (CET) | |||
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