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:We know from at least four sources (console reports, [[Talk:Hasegawa|Fuji article]], airport poster and Hasegawa's diary) that | :We know from at least four sources (console reports, [[Talk:Hasegawa|Fuji article]], airport poster and Hasegawa's diary) that polluted air and/or quarantined zones had existed before the Big Bang (abnormal [[Sturmanderung]] pulse set off by Mai). The causes and direct consequences aren't mentioned. We can speculate that the citizens are often required to wear "[[HAPEMASK]]" [[wikipedia:Respirator|respirators]] as protection against airborne pollutants and that the natural environment is contaminated with [[wikipedia:Virulent|virulent]] pathogens (toxins/bacteria/viruses). | ||
:152ppm was the last measured [[wikipedia:Dioxin|dioxin]] level in the [[Quotes/Consoles/level_19c|Sturmanderung report]]; after the Big Bang the pollution and their symptoms will be much more and stronger. | :152ppm was the last measured [[wikipedia:Dioxin|dioxin]] level in the [[Quotes/Consoles/level_19c|Sturmanderung report]]; after the Big Bang the pollution and their symptoms will be much more and stronger. | ||
:According to an [[ACC]] report "Class 4 airborne toxins" can arise | :According to an [[ACC]] report "Class 4 airborne toxins" can arise when inverting the cleaning process. Whatever this means isn't clear - at least, Konoko talked about "The dead and the dying now line the streets" in the outro, so the effect must be enormous. | ||
;Past | ;Past | ||
:Of course "[[Kerr|we don't know that for sure]]", but with the upcoming global catastrophe (who can see it coming??? [[User:Geyser|geyser]]) there is bound to be a public outcry demanding answers as for why this happened (sorry, at what moment??? [[User:Geyser|geyser]]). And most probably the story started far in the past. | :Of course "[[Kerr|we don't know that for sure]]", but with the upcoming global catastrophe (who can see it coming??? [[User:Geyser|geyser]]) there is bound to be a public outcry demanding answers as for why this happened (sorry, at what moment??? [[User:Geyser|geyser]]). And most probably the story started far in the past. | ||
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:If no diplomatic solution can be found, then the WCG and the Syndicate will try to tear each other into pieces. The fact that the population suffers the most will make it all the easier to manipulate and to set against the "enemy". He who has convinced the masses has won. | :If no diplomatic solution can be found, then the WCG and the Syndicate will try to tear each other into pieces. The fact that the population suffers the most will make it all the easier to manipulate and to set against the "enemy". He who has convinced the masses has won. | ||
:This raises the following contradictory trends: | :This raises the following contradictory trends: | ||
::1) WCG is responsible for originally creating the | ::1) WCG is responsible for originally creating the pollution or for not dealing with it, and the Syndicate - for making it increase. (as a bonus, the WCG could brand [[Sturmanderung]] as a genocide with a neonazi background) (OMG... [[User:Geyser|geyser]]) | ||
::2) In the middle of the general panic the Syndicate can promote the [[Daodan]] Chrysalis as the only chance of survival. ("[[Kerr|We don't know for sure]]" how strong the contamination will be. So the Syndicate might be bluffing, not unlike the WCG's use of "techno-phobia".) | ::2) In the middle of the general panic the Syndicate can promote the [[Daodan]] Chrysalis as the only chance of survival. ("[[Kerr|We don't know for sure]]" how strong the contamination will be. So the Syndicate might be bluffing, not unlike the WCG's use of "techno-phobia".) | ||
:(NEW: The WCG itself can say that the Daodan Chrysalis is just part two of the (neonazi) Sturmanderung - converting the survivors into ''genetically clean and better humans''. (übermensch, eh??? [[User:Geyser|geyser]]) (actually, that's not a lie... [[User:Geyser|geyser]]) | :(NEW: The WCG itself can say that the Daodan Chrysalis is just part two of the (neonazi) Sturmanderung - converting the survivors into ''genetically clean and better humans''. (übermensch, eh??? [[User:Geyser|geyser]]) (actually, that's not a lie... [[User:Geyser|geyser]]) | ||
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:Same goes for some of the points you responded to up there (BTW, rather create new sections down here). | :Same goes for some of the points you responded to up there (BTW, rather create new sections down here). | ||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 11:11, 10 October 2007 (CEST) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 11:11, 10 October 2007 (CEST) | ||
:We should see this as an temporary place for discussion (the topics are related). After finishing it will be placed somewhere else or deleted. | |||
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 19:29, 17 October 2007 (CEST) | |||
;the official election was planned to be a fake. They declare war on the WCG but work secretly together. The people should believe "democracy is still alive". | ;the official election was planned to be a fake. They declare war on the WCG but work secretly together. The people should believe "democracy is still alive". | ||
:Democracy is dead. In Oni's world there's as much "freedom" and "democracy" as in today's [[Singapore]] | :Democracy is dead. In Oni's world there's as much "freedom" and "democracy" as in today's [[Singapore]] | ||
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:Hard to think of a less appropriate time to organize (or fake) an electoral campaign... | :Hard to think of a less appropriate time to organize (or fake) an electoral campaign... | ||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 11:11, 10 October 2007 (CEST) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 11:11, 10 October 2007 (CEST) | ||
:About democracy ... ok, you convinced me. | |||
:And pollutions and it effects: please see my reply about "the time frame". | |||
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 19:29, 17 October 2007 (CEST) | |||
:"But if a diplomatic solution can be found, then I had called it META." ''You'' called it META? ;) | :"But if a diplomatic solution can be found, then I had called it META." ''You'' called it META? ;) | ||
::(maybe you meant "But if a diplomatic solution can be found, then I ''would'' call it META"?) | ::(maybe you meant "But if a diplomatic solution can be found, then I ''would'' call it META"?) | ||
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:Even if there are moderate factions on either side, can they really stop Muro's Strikers? | :Even if there are moderate factions on either side, can they really stop Muro's Strikers? | ||
::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 11:11, 10 October 2007 (CEST) | ::[[User:Geyser|geyser]] 11:11, 10 October 2007 (CEST) | ||
:(META. Meta means for me also "übergreifend". I was thinking of it as something ambiguous.) | |||
:When Muro's Strikers are dangerous to everybody including BGI a possible step could be cooperation on the execution force base. :Taking own troops (semi-good hitmen, sniper mercenaries), TCTF, army, and even Mai. | |||
:In case on success WCG heads will become scapegoats and the old Syndicate choose a new hierarchy for them. (The deal with Mai will also negated. -- But this is just an idea and won't happen. Because of .. well .. we don't want an WCG with Syndicate heads. ^^ | |||
::[[User:Paradox-01|Paradox-01]] 19:29, 17 October 2007 (CEST) | |||