User talk:Neo

I am sorry to bother, but this can help to make h2w system look better. When character collides with wall, what REALLY collide ??? For me it seems that for char->wall collision there is some invisible bounding box. Where is this bounding box, if you know (or correct me if I am wrong). How can I change it? I ask because for me (it is my guess in next sentence, nothing proven ) it seems that this "bounding box" looks like invisible sphere which is around pelvis bone. That is why you can fall and stick your torso/head/legs into next room. Engine ignores bones in char->wall coll. Is this correct? + please answer if you know how to change it. Thanks a lot in any case

P.S.:Just a curious question, no explanation needed: I know that AI2 powered characters can push away weapons which are on ground. Can it be (from engine-possibilities point of view) that in ONI we should have movable furniture (objects which can be pushed by chars)?

--Loser 11:34, 20 June 2008 (CEST)

Umm... many questions, time for a brain dump :)

Character - Wall collision

this is always sphere tree-quad collision. You probably know that the sphere tree can be seen with "chr_debug_sphere=1". One thing to note about that sphere tree is that it always "stays up" (even when the character is fallen). That's why fallen characters pass through walls, their body gets outside the sphere when that happens.

As for changing the radius of that sphere tree: it may be possible but it won't solve anything.

Character - Floor collision

characters also have a special function to detect floor collision which checks if a 3x3 quad intersects the floor. This is done to avoid "strange" sinking when the sphere's lowest point goes outside the floor. This is the probable cause why sometimes fallen characters hang on an edge (their 3x3 quad still intersects the floor) or fall of the edge even if their feet or head are still on the floor (the 3x3 quad is too small to cover the feet and head when the character is fallen).

Particle - Wall collision

this is always point-quad collision (the point is the position of the particle)

Particle - Object collision (where object is anything with a physics context that supports collision: characters, OBOA objects, powerups, weapons)

this can be sphere-obbox or sphere-sphere collision depending on what the object has (obbox or sphere tree). The radius of the particle sphere is taken from Collision Radius property of the particle class. It can be 0 and then the collision degenerates to point-obbox/point-sphere collision.

Environment collision (general)

The engine can only do point-quad and spheretree-quad collision detection.

Object collision (general)

All objects (that have a physics context) have a sphere tree attached to them and some objects created through OBOA also have an obbox.

Moveable furniture

Yes and no. It can be done to some extent using OBOA.

Basically an OBOA object can be pushed if it's not animated (no OBAN link) and it has "physics type" 2 or 4 (I don't know what's the difference).

What doesn't work:

characters fall through objects (the character-floor collision function does not see objects)
since the environment only supports sphere-quad collision you tipically cannot push an object very close to the wall (unless of course the object itself is a sphere or close enough to one)
objects can fall but because of sphere-quad collision detection they'll get stuck somewhere above the floor
an object can fall on another object but a third object will fall through both of them; in general multiple object interaction is buggy
if I remember correctly there is 128 physics context limit. That means the number of active characters + objects + powerups and whatever else needs a physics context is limited to 128. Anyway it will very likely crawl before you reach that limit.

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