Talk:Quotes

Deviations

geyser wrote in OCF

"Not that they make plotwise sense: just so that we know who's got used to seeing/hearing what, and what we might need to stress/disambiguate when quoting the "canonical" English material."

I think that hits the nail onto head.

paradox

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Speech

Muro & Griffin & friends

Original English version

Griffin is dead ->

15_59_02 Muro: Glorious, isn't it? This is the future. Join me or die like all the others, choking on dead air and foul water. I have accomplished everything our father dreamed of doing.

Griffin is alive ->

15_60_03 Muro: He used you. Join me or die like all the others, choking on dead air and foul water. I have accomplished everything our father dreamed of doing.

German version

Griffin is alive ->

15_60_03 Muro: Er hat dich benutzt. Schließ dich mir an oder verrecke an der giftigen Luft und dem faulen Wasser wie all die anderen. Ich habe alles erreicht, wovon dein Vater träumte.

back translated into English

Griffin is alive ->

15_60_03 Muro: He used you. Join me or die like all the others, choking on dead air and foul water. I have accomplished everything your father dreamed of doing.

Discussion

The thing woke my interest because sound dialogue was also changed to "your father".

Someone could think that Muro didn't know about his father (if you didn't kill Griffin). But this idea cannot stand:

1. there have to be something like a decision bridge, but that isn't the case
2. there are other translation which wasn't changed in meaning

paradox

"decision bridge"?

geyser 19:09, 7 February 2007 (CET)

Outro

Original English version

15_61_01 Konoko: When I blew the processors I bought us some time, but at a horrible cost. The dead and the dying now line the streets but it is impossible to deny the problem any longer. My father's work may prove to be the salvation of the afflicted after all.

German version

15_61_01 Konoko: Die Sprengung der Prozessoren hat uns ein bisschen Zeit gebracht, aber zu einem schrecklichen Preis. Die Toten und Sterbenden säumen die Straßen, doch das Problem lässt sich nicht länger leugnen. Vielleicht erweist sich die Arbeit meines Vaters doch noch als die Lösung.

back translated into English

15_61_01 Konoko: Blowing the processors bought us some time, [...]

Discussion

It sounds like Konoko doesn't feel that it was her fault. This passive construction include her person in a way but lets place for speculation...

paradox

I think speculation is not the word I'd use even for Muro up there (who cares what the translators were smoking?).

Additionally, that one (OutroKonoko) is unconvincing. It's free translation, not literal, and the meaning is preserved.

You may just as well have mentioned the "now", which disappeared in th German version (in "now line the streets").

I'm curious what you think about the "but"/"doch" (what is she "but"ting?), and about the Problem (what problem could she mean?).

geyser 19:09, 7 February 2007 (CET)