Talk:Tanker

Outstanding Issues with this Page

This page is going to require group effort to finish, but it will be quite useful when done. If you take care of an item below, you can strike the item through in the list, using the <del> and </del> tags, or I will do it at some point. Thank you. --Iritscen 18:18, 11 March 2008 (CET)

1. The colors listed under Varieties are made up; will someone list the correct colors there? (Don't look at me, I'm colorblind!)

2. The purpose of listing colors is to list under each color the differences in that version of the character. If someone has the stats on each version, please post them (starting HP, damage done, etc.). As far as I know, each color has its own stats, right?

3. We need a thorough listing of moves. I don't know if there are official move names for the moves that do not have their names called out when performed. The names provided for the moves on this page are ripped off from OniShots, although I proposed different names in parentheses in some cases, usually based upon official wrestling parlance. Each move should also have details such as damage done, interruptability status, and keys to press to use that attack when playing as that character.

4. Should we have pics illustrating each move? Can we use the ones from OniShots (probably we would need their permission)?

5. Do all versions of this character have the same moves available to them? If not, we need to note that under the appropriate color section.

Iritscen 18:18, 11 March 2008 (CET)

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Thanks for the more constructive cleanup template, but I'd reformulate it a bit, since to "finish" a wiki page is a contradiction in terms.

I don't think a thorough overview of Oni's Tankers from a game developer's point of view will be "quite useful" to any potential readers.

If anything, it'd be redundant of the Manual section and of the already available gameplay database. Also, it'd be unreadably complex.

Point is, if you want to describe the characters' characteristics accurately, there's much more to variety than a Tanker's "color"...

1. I'm colorblind too, but seriously, don't you believe in the color-picking-and-analyzing tool of your favorite drawing program? Huh...
2. Stats differ a lot within a specific "version" and are being affected by the Anniversary Edition. To document them now is a bad idea.
3. Technically, Tankers inherit a lot of moves from Comguys, even though the AI don't use them much or at all: Gameplay/Combat moves
   Therefore I think mini-overviews are redundant and pretty much pointless. I would rather spend time on the global database (thumbs etc).
   All the moves are actually named in the MELE profiles, but those names are often generic, and won't add much to the interest of this page.
   Exhaustive detail from the binaries would totally drown the rest of the material, and BTW it wouldn't even be reliable because of the Edition.
4. The global database has stimulated (without much success) the creation of standardized GIFs of the moves. Thumbs would be nice too.
   As for the permissions, it's not like you have asked the permission to all the folks from DeviantArt before featuring their Oni art here, right?
5. Tankers actually have a very interesting development background. All 3 ONCC use the same TRAC but there are 6 different MELE profiles.
   The extra 3 MELE are the relicts of early experimentation (along with the tanker_casual ONCV etc) but are actually used by Tankers in Oni.
   A thorough overview of the 6 MELE profiles would be sick, and in any case it has nothing to do on a "public interest" page about Tankers.

There, hope this helps. And thanks again for the template, it's really a whole lot better.

geyser 21:05, 11 March 2008 (CET)

Oh, and you still have this unexplicable affinity for capitals everywhere... Who do you think you are, a German or something? ^_^

geyser 21:05, 11 March 2008 (CET)

"unexplicable affinity for capitals "o_^ So what??

And about the fourth point: we (Iritscen and me) can still try to get permissions (from DA folks) by sending them emails... But the GIFs are already on an Oni webspace. (Harry's, right?) Aren't they already for free community use?

Paradox-01 22:34, 11 March 2008 (CET)

Capitals Are Evil. They make the headers and links look unnatural. I hate them I hate them. Aaaaaaargh.

Screw the permissions, guys. I'll tell you when you steal something important and worth asking about.

geyser 23:01, 11 March 2008 (CET)