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::::My version of the Wilderness is indeed not stopping. The WCG has fenced it in (using whatever technology we want to imagine), but it's still spreading. Once in a while it touches down in a new remote location and grows too far before it can be killed off. Think of a forest fire: you can contain it, but it can also jump your attempts at containment. In this case, the Wilderness is spreading both underground and through the air. This is explained in scientific terms in a couple different places I'm too lazy to link to. To be clear, the Daodan doesn't jump from species to species (my Jamie hypothesis above was not a part of my "Daodan theory", it was just a lark). It remains lodged in each species' DNA (or what-have-you), but each species is exceptionally good at doing what life does: multiplying itself. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 03:23, 10 June 2020 (CEST) | ::::My version of the Wilderness is indeed not stopping. The WCG has fenced it in (using whatever technology we want to imagine), but it's still spreading. Once in a while it touches down in a new remote location and grows too far before it can be killed off. Think of a forest fire: you can contain it, but it can also jump your attempts at containment. In this case, the Wilderness is spreading both underground and through the air. This is explained in scientific terms in a couple different places I'm too lazy to link to. To be clear, the Daodan doesn't jump from species to species (my Jamie hypothesis above was not a part of my "Daodan theory", it was just a lark). It remains lodged in each species' DNA (or what-have-you), but each species is exceptionally good at doing what life does: multiplying itself. --[[User:Iritscen|Iritscen]] ([[User talk:Iritscen|talk]]) 03:23, 10 June 2020 (CEST) | ||
:::::I have several persistent problems with SoW, and the supposed "containment" of the Wilderness is one of them. | :::::I have several persistent problems with SoW, and the supposed "containment" of the Wilderness is one of them. | ||
:::::*From your description it would look like the Wilderness is so good | :::::*From your description it would look like the Wilderness is so good at spreading (if left to itself) that the WCG would need a whole "Wilderness Preserve Task Force" to keep it in check: super-fences running on kitten farts (somehow missing from Hasegawa's tale), tight control of airborne spreading, and more generally a whole army of [[wp:SCP_Foundation|SCP]]-like scientists and/or Men-In-Black going around looking for new "spores", stomping out nascent contamination and hushing up any knowledge thereof. | ||
:::::*Somehow the Wilderness issue (and its supposed connection to the Daodan) is so well hushed-up that even Kerr sounds a bit condescending towards Hasegawa's alarmism, as well as the rest of the Daodan team at the Science Prison: ''"Professor Hasegawa's theory was that the Daodan Chrysalis would replace damaged or weakened biological systems in the host body as required, enabling humans to survive ''' | :::::*Somehow the Wilderness issue (and its supposed connection to the Daodan) is so well hushed-up that even Kerr sounds a bit condescending towards Hasegawa's alarmism, as well as the rest of the Daodan team at the Science Prison: ''"Professor Hasegawa's theory was that the Daodan Chrysalis would replace damaged or weakened biological systems in the host body as required, enabling humans to survive what '''he''' saw was an impending collapse of the Earth's biosphere''." -- and then they go on to analyze the regenerative properties of the Chrysalis, which were suitable from Hasegawa's "doomsday" perspective but appear as overkill to less emotional scientists almost 20 years later. | ||
:::::So, I don't know, to me it looks like Zones are just home to carelessly disposed-of biological WMDs. The bush thing essentially caused Jamie to rot alive, whereas the manual gives us exploding eyes and melting bones ("horror stories" backing up the Uprising, which weren't necessarily 100% made-up) -- from my point of view, this fits together rather well. | :::::So, I don't know, to me it looks like Zones are just home to carelessly-disposed-of biological WMDs. The bush thing essentially caused Jamie to rot alive, whereas the manual gives us exploding eyes and melting bones ("horror stories" backing up the Uprising, which weren't necessarily 100% made-up) -- from my point of view, this fits together rather well. | ||
::::::''I am not too keen on modern-day social commentary in sci-fi, but it fits in well with certain Russian realities, too: waste burial sites (including NBC) that are made "easy to ignore" for a while, and then resurface and result in serious health hazards; this is especially a problem because of how large Russia is, which makes it harder for activists to mobilize around a hazardous dump in the middle of nowhere -- although lately it's been happening in and around Moscow as well).'' | ::::::''I am not too keen on modern-day social commentary in sci-fi, but it fits in well with certain Russian realities, too: waste burial sites (including NBC) that are made "easy to ignore" for a while, and then resurface and result in serious health hazards; this is especially a problem because of how large Russia is, which makes it harder for activists to mobilize around a hazardous dump in the middle of nowhere -- although lately it's been happening in and around Moscow as well).'' | ||
:::::The Phase can give a sci-fi twist to WMD/NBC dumps -- experimental teleportation gone bad, or secret labs inside the Zones, rather than dumps --, but that's as far as I would go (at least that's how I feel right now). Dumps/leaks (Phase-enhanced or not) can be contained if the WCG really care about solving the issue, but if they don't | :::::The Phase can give a sci-fi twist to WMD/NBC dumps -- experimental teleportation gone bad, or secret labs inside the Zones, rather than dumps --, but that's as far as I would go (at least that's how I feel right now). Dumps/leaks (Phase-enhanced or not) can be contained if the WCG really care about solving the issue, but if they don't then the Zones can just be fenced off, with airborne emanations contributing to the BioCrisis, but only steadily rather than exponentially, allowing the WCG to counter with ACC upgrades -- a perfect "pet threat". --[[User:Geyser|geyser]] ([[User talk:Geyser|talk]]) 23:25, 11 June 2020 (CEST) | ||
===Daodan Genesis=== | ===Daodan Genesis=== |